"The dignity, joy, freedom and community values, the collective value, without losing the humor, without losing the tenderness, without losing the strength and autonomy, does not require all the state, not the state ask anything unless they respect, but do not ask a penny ... "
In a context quite beautiful by the day, which is not filed any tag, when it is presented in an international friendly against the Argentine national team the English "last world champion South Africa." Open the doors of his house in Buenos Aires and shows the world that unfolds around him, history books, scarves inscribed with his membership in Children, and gifts become so many trips made to Mexico, among other things like the sketch of his radio show on 88.7 FM La Tribu "Fight Pario us."
Background in through the issuance by the TV Channel 7 public hear the stories of the game and when you open a dialogue with the master degree at Villa Park in the city of Buenos Aires, full-time teacher a state school, also has her militancy in children from 15 years ago. Without neglecting some radio antics, as well as being one of the hosts of radio CHILD, 11 years ago. But the question is which is part of the network in solidarity with Chiapas in Buenos Aires
What do I wear to military children?
Well, my old was abducted in June 1976 and was always related to human rights organizations, family members, mothers groups until May Square CHILDREN born fifteen and a half and immediately add me, my identity , then first since the commission of education that we had to basically what we did was attend a school that we were invited to give testimonies and good 11 years ago was born "the struggle that we Parian" parimos this radio show in the Tribe, the September 17 500 programs comply.
How you grew intellectually engaged in children?
Well, far from the imprint of children, from the new way of seeing things, escraches, horizontal militancy, militancy beyond the usual partisan logic and a clear purpose and manifesting impunity with creativity in absentia and joy as well. escraches were certainly something that weighed heavily in our country because they left the sight of those who were to blame. You guys are in fine charged to organize these events do not?
If, perhaps tired of the impunity and legal impunity and demonstrations are always facing the centers of power, in Plaza de Mayo, in Congress, compared a ministry or courts eventually. We were aware that it was against the validity of the laws of impunity for genocide sent free. We started looking in front of the impossibility of legal justice, we were looking for social condemnation.
-were well marked-
Exactly, I say it is a home service, a delibery we did at that moment and that we were looking for social condemnation and often got it in principle against the residents of the murderers living peacefully in their homes. Your participation in
FM La Tribu, do you think that is close to an ideal of a society in terms of management?
Say to remember a lot not only with the principles but how to work the radio, in that it is not specifically a collective radial, but is cultural, radio is the main activity but not the only coupling coherence policy despite the diversity of groups that go there, the good vibes artistita and growth in sound quality, you want to be better and there are many good characters, interesting that there are many who are learning and one next door.
creativity Do you see quality? Also essential, not escape the obvious, "is strongly creativity, political commitment, engagement and good-hearted people.
How do you connect with the Network in Solidarity with Chiapas?
Out of curiosity, at first I approached, I shut very well written beauty of the Zapatistas, but it was a guerrilla army, an armed people, I do not close properly, then I was prompted by curiosity to travel and learn first hand that and that's really the Mayan culture, the practice politics out of any dogma, we can not classify the Zapatista-no-no no ranges.
And the dignity of those Indians who show us a path that despite being illiterate, having lots of material weaknesses in particular, have a heart, a creative, a gay rebellion bullet-proof and are government grow and develop in many ways especially in the strongest, not only health, education, communication, but human relationships in which they live and say nice.
After 8 or 9 years of traveling to Mexico. How would you define the Zapatista education and state education in our country? Here we look
twenty-first century students, teacher of the twentieth century, schools and programs of the nineteenth century and there are no teachers, no education promoters who are twenty-first century, promoters may be of the twentieth century, the students are from the twenty-one, but think beyond as the tissue of the programs. Not to resolve to always communally tomorrow, then that gives a perspective that we do not know if they are doors that open doors that we do not know where they lead, but there are handing out keys, making networks the Zapatistas and is very interesting to do with that perspective and the genuine value of love be better, not wanting to pursue a degree and the Community value of education. Is
more highlights how Zapatista education than ours in this country?
Of course, no matter what you learn here, but the title you receive
How would you define the concept of education having these two experiences?
For me education is the ability to manage changes behavior, or whether one is educated can not be the same as before and the style is here to be the same but with a title, with a graduation, with a role to give you a chance to have a title to be more to be known exploited there.
-To fit into a system, and adapt to the system here (in Argentina) you educate yourself to be a part of the machine, and there (Mexico) are educated to be a better person, to be better in community, to understand us better not to fit quite the opposite to make revolution.
After several minutes of fluid dialogue, we interrupted the 2nd goal by Argentina, in which cut because of his interest in domestic football. To return to the game of words and explain that he had a haircut by his daughter, a hairdresser, because the next day traveling to Mendoza, Andean province to discuss their experiences within the territory of the EZLN (Zapatista National Liberation Army) follows the talk .
What are the values \u200b\u200bthat stand out from the EZLN?
dignity, joy, freedom and community values, the collective value, without losing the humor, without losing the tenderness, without losing the strength and autonomy, does not require all the state, not the state ask anything unless they respect, but do not ask a penny and social movements generally here first thing we do is to demand the state "to provide" and do not resolve independently.
autonomous
-A methodology to implement is the Book "other stories" and you're part-
If ideologue, was released in Germany, in France's out now, this resulted in the Basque Country, the Basque language Basque language is also possible to leave, in the united states as well and the Mapuche.
"The book is about the writings of Subcomandante Marcos?
The book is a book-disk containing twelve of the tales of Subcomandante Marcos and has stories of people very supportive, starting with Galeano and honored, we have sold a lot and there are many people who have and continue distributing .
What is the story of Galeano's participation in the book?
We are not imagined, is more what we dreamed, but then so was the collective dream, make this dream of an individual, it became a collective dream and it was done, we arrived safely just, perhaps, because it was collective and away we went with Galeano, Biglietti, León Gieco, and several actors and actresses who participated.
Since the product of the book. Does the image of how it handles the EZLN?
Yes, it is a fraction of but consistent, because even the approach we have on this anti-capitalist book includes not only the realization that no one make a cent, all the money going to communities and was given a lot of money to good government there, and continue to deliver, but we are keeping it at a bargain price, or is currently the book-album we are selling for $ 35 pesos, when in bookstores, which are withdrawn from the bookstores, because they have them at 60 or 70 dollars because they say they can not compete with a book, which has nothing , has no color, no more leaving Cd. Then as this is a capitalist logic, we do not get into that logic and take it out, we sell directly.
From your teen always were against the capitalist system?
Yes, as far as possible, perhaps my education, my parents, had nothing to do with it with creativity, with art, with political commitment.
With respect to political commitment How do you as a person?
Learning, living and trying to inspire and to develop here of what I learn there and sharing, that is, the book is that, share the word of the EZLN from twelve stories by beautiful. And we're sharing the main goal is raise money, the main objective is to share the word silver is also important, not gain much of each book but it is true that we earn goes to them but that's entirely a political artistic compromise that is consistent, which is nice. One expects a book of militancy that is gray, boring black and this, if you have a black is a letter.
How do you define the culture of the Zapatista army?
Basically has to do with the claim of the original culture, mainly the Mayan culture and the culture that has to do with the painting that has to do with the murals, which has to do with the low relief, not so well musically . That not only has to do with history more original, but it has to do with the meeting of other cultures in the world with all who go there taking their own and culture are intertwined, so you can see graffiti hip-hop rebels who live in the U.S., as you have Japanese paintings and murals you see traveling art communities everywhere and that is culture.
you an anecdote: I work in the autonomous rebel Zapatista elementary school, a boy comes over and looks at me very, very small and says
- What's your name?
- Eduardo "I say.
"And you talk?
-and tell. English and stares at me ... and a few seconds after I say "only? Because they speak English, speak mostly churchill, Tzeltal Mayan languages \u200b\u200band also learn quickly and see some learning Italian and Italian salute you thinking that you're Italian and a capacity for learning and integration and is not that they know more as a matter of quantity but a need to communicate.
Then in the communication culture that is able to communicate with others, hence driving various Mayan languages \u200b\u200bor mother tongue or the father are sometimes different and displaced persons who usually live in another place, displaced by military or paramilitary also the English, and language with which they welcome you, out there learning your own language, your own language, your own way to connect, then so you can connect with them, weave music, a mural and it is also culture.
What type of education received by children of the Zapatista territory?
like everybody else is autonomous, each community chooses its own schedule, choose their own time, determine their own time, its own way, then it is very difficult to generalize. But related to humanism, agroecology are impressive beyond what the human is the Maya world view, which implies knowledge of history and political relations today, what is evil Mexican government that Zapatista is good governance, the declarations of the Lacandon jungle, that is the foundation of Zapatista National Liberation Army, the history of Zapata, Che.
How is the story of his nickname "the Sub Takes Mate" in Zapatista territory?
Well because I'm with the material for several reasons, not just because I'm mater, but because perhaps for survival, the Mexican Meal times are the reverse of ours, so far as we are is a breakfast for them or a lunch is very strong for us, then say that for breakfast with hot rice, potato is not ours. So here I go with my mate, then at noon they ate little, I stay hungry, then there is the mate and the mate then children I got there the Sub Takes Mate. But it is an emergency issue not only of identity but gastronomic to fill the belly and economically. There
share educational learning experience as well mainly because they have no teacher because the teacher is a teacher of life, say they are not teachers, because it has to do with the professed, or a religious issue. They speak of education advocates because no one educates anyone, no one is educated, then they must have agreements.
is agreed to educate community with others and which has a responsibility to guide the educational process as having to deal with community responsibility absorb, supplement from another point of view it is, what we call students, the standard of students, meaning students without light and that is what they dislike of certain words that give a real value to the value words.
school boys are students, those who study are students, but no students in any way and on that basis is also a community responsibility and there are agreements, works agreements. Then in what for us is no dispute and can sometimes be an enemy, an opponent someone shit. The student-teacher, there is not all he otherwise recognize the solidarity that is a promoter of education by encouraging and share l who knows, then that a compromise agreement, respect and solidarity, and it is not obvious what they say.
How do you define the word solidarity?
has to do, not with individual mirrors having an other-which can highlight me in another, and here comes the agreements, as such, that is.
What do you think about the concept of globalization?
What I learned from the Zapatistas, that globalization has to do with balloons and balloon bursting end, what is globalized is the market and the struggles, globalization is to standardize everything and be part of the same machine and I think rebellion that happens to get out of that machine and if you know other people in the world and share music, culture, paintings, but we are not the same and this great diversity.
Each has its place worth fighting for and globalization makes it necessary today is that there are one or two games, a dichotomy in which one has to choose between two general, and other options are not valid, or must social movements to ask the state and then when the state gives the state also requires, then one becomes dependent on those issues and not create independently their own spaces and I think that goes around the community concept.
How do the good government?
generally not all, in five there, operating in the snails that are the sites where works that meeting, where the school, clinic, home of the cooperative, the boards are the representatives of the communities of the autonomous municipalities, Twenty-eight representing then if it turns to be always present and are on call and shifts, is anonymous and absolutely democratic, direct democracy imposes no candidates, no time limits, or at most four years and may be renewed, but no later fixed, is an assembly by assembly, validates community responsibility is a responsibility the community has to banking partner.
With regard to cooperatives. How does it work in this area?
Well, from the EZLN and to avoid not only logical but of the capitalists, they are called coyotes there, intermediaries and other exploitation of the producers had not only coffee but fundamentally women producing handicrafts, weaving then began to organize into cooperatives and not only consumption, but production or marketing, self-support and international solidarity also gather outside some money when they sell their crafts, coffee or international solidarity that inspired them most by such "other stories" that also is not only took money, not just capital, but is the product of their word, with photographs of them, in practice, as such, but mainly has to do with them what is sustainable, there are communities that are more coffee, some with corn alone, rice and other well between trade, barter and trade have a much better life and more democratic in the sense that if you go hungry all hungry, but did not pass and are supportive, have reversed what is child malnutrition, illiteracy have far exceeded all conceivable parameters and that they do collectively solve it.
Is education only to the territory where they are?
No, not alone, they inspire and there are many centers in many parts of the world that work very similar to them, some inspired by the Zapatistas but most intuitively, what happens is that the Zapatistas are a mirror, in addition to many people, then acquire new forces in different places, but here are some kernels Mapuche in Santiago del Estero, in southern Chile mainly, but there are in Ecuador, in Brasilia, there are certain core linked to the MST, now in Colombia, which is the Minga In the Philippines, India, Denmark, in many places where self concepts, achievements and community realities autonomous autonomous rebel weave their own history, no export Zapatistas, but dreaming together.
Do you think that the collective comes a new culture?
If our culture often leads us to the personality, then look for references, look for leaders and often searches for Mark as a leader there and no, he has a mission, now about two years ago not to speak publicly and the press usually you are looking for a single point and not what happens in communities is growing more into autonomy today than you can say Mark, then this is the way enterprises from the most basic community as a craft cooperative or school , in another aspect also the rebel radio communications and is a venture self a need for communication and are growing very strongly.
How is the work that has the radius of the insurgents?
The voice of the voiceless, the voice that carries communications, some clandestine, covert, some of the most frequently used in connection with recipes and also great music and we could make enough in relation to that can bring world music From this corner, especially ours, but that we give not only to the Rally Barrionuevo Marcos m singing, but also trees and the sound Bersuit there quietly and also by Atahualpa Yupanqui Cortázar course and they say that to be Zapatista first have to be cronopio (is a picture off the rim, a poem without rhymes. integrate the world-told by the writer Julio Cortázar-) and Cortazar brand is part of the Zapatistas, necessarily although he has not known is basic.
How do you define your role as a communicator?
I have a role at most in the media for story above experiences, not just story of the struggles of others, but their own, or what I have to be a witness, not looking to be a witness, but looking for somehow be involved, it seems to me lies that I have a good way to say and less a way of writing, but I I can tell stories that make alive the possibility of knowing other people.
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