Are Her Eyes Too Close Together

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"The dignity, joy, freedom and community values, the collective value, without losing the humor, without losing the tenderness, without losing the strength and autonomy, does not require all the state, not the state ask anything unless they respect, but do not ask a penny ... "

In a context quite beautiful by the day, which is not filed any tag, when it is presented in an international friendly against the Argentine national team the English "last world champion South Africa." Open the doors of his house in Buenos Aires and shows the world that unfolds around him, history books, scarves inscribed with his membership in Children, and gifts become so many trips made to Mexico, among other things like the sketch of his radio show on 88.7 FM La Tribu "Fight Pario us."

Background in through the issuance by the TV Channel 7 public hear the stories of the game and when you open a dialogue with the master degree at Villa Park in the city of Buenos Aires, full-time teacher a state school, also has her militancy in children from 15 years ago. Without neglecting some radio antics, as well as being one of the hosts of radio CHILD, 11 years ago. But the question is which is part of the network in solidarity with Chiapas in Buenos Aires

What do I wear to military children?
Well, my old was abducted in June 1976 and was always related to human rights organizations, family members, mothers groups until May Square CHILDREN born fifteen and a half and immediately add me, my identity , then first since the commission of education that we had to basically what we did was attend a school that we were invited to give testimonies and good 11 years ago was born "the struggle that we Parian" parimos this radio show in the Tribe, the September 17 500 programs comply.
How you grew intellectually engaged in children?

Well, far from the imprint of children, from the new way of seeing things, escraches, horizontal militancy, militancy beyond the usual partisan logic and a clear purpose and manifesting impunity with creativity in absentia and joy as well.

escraches were certainly something that weighed heavily in our country because they left the sight of those who were to blame. You guys are in fine charged to organize these events do not?

If, perhaps tired of the impunity and legal impunity and demonstrations are always facing the centers of power, in Plaza de Mayo, in Congress, compared a ministry or courts eventually. We were aware that it was against the validity of the laws of impunity for genocide sent free. We started looking in front of the impossibility of legal justice, we were looking for social condemnation.

-were well marked-

Exactly, I say it is a home service, a delibery we did at that moment and that we were looking for social condemnation and often got it in principle against the residents of the murderers living peacefully in their homes. Your participation in

FM La Tribu, do you think that is close to an ideal of a society in terms of management?

Say to remember a lot not only with the principles but how to work the radio, in that it is not specifically a collective radial, but is cultural, radio is the main activity but not the only coupling coherence policy despite the diversity of groups that go there, the good vibes artistita and growth in sound quality, you want to be better and there are many good characters, interesting that there are many who are learning and one next door.

creativity Do you see quality? Also essential, not escape the obvious, "is strongly creativity, political commitment, engagement and good-hearted people.

How do you connect with the Network in Solidarity with Chiapas?

Out of curiosity, at first I approached, I shut very well written beauty of the Zapatistas, but it was a guerrilla army, an armed people, I do not close properly, then I was prompted by curiosity to travel and learn first hand that and that's really the Mayan culture, the practice politics out of any dogma, we can not classify the Zapatista-no-no no ranges.

And the dignity of those Indians who show us a path that despite being illiterate, having lots of material weaknesses in particular, have a heart, a creative, a gay rebellion bullet-proof and are government grow and develop in many ways especially in the strongest, not only health, education, communication, but human relationships in which they live and say nice.

After 8 or 9 years of traveling to Mexico. How would you define the Zapatista education and state education in our country? Here we look

twenty-first century students, teacher of the twentieth century, schools and programs of the nineteenth century and there are no teachers, no education promoters who are twenty-first century, promoters may be of the twentieth century, the students are from the twenty-one, but think beyond as the tissue of the programs. Not to resolve to always communally tomorrow, then that gives a perspective that we do not know if they are doors that open doors that we do not know where they lead, but there are handing out keys, making networks the Zapatistas and is very interesting to do with that perspective and the genuine value of love be better, not wanting to pursue a degree and the Community value of education. Is

more highlights how Zapatista education than ours in this country?

Of course, no matter what you learn here, but the title you receive

How would you define the concept of education having these two experiences?

For me education is the ability to manage changes behavior, or whether one is educated can not be the same as before and the style is here to be the same but with a title, with a graduation, with a role to give you a chance to have a title to be more to be known exploited there.

-To fit into a system, and adapt to the system here (in Argentina) you educate yourself to be a part of the machine, and there (Mexico) are educated to be a better person, to be better in community, to understand us better not to fit quite the opposite to make revolution.

After several minutes of fluid dialogue, we interrupted the 2nd goal by Argentina, in which cut because of his interest in domestic football. To return to the game of words and explain that he had a haircut by his daughter, a hairdresser, because the next day traveling to Mendoza, Andean province to discuss their experiences within the territory of the EZLN (Zapatista National Liberation Army) follows the talk .
What are the values \u200b\u200bthat stand out from the EZLN?

dignity, joy, freedom and community values, the collective value, without losing the humor, without losing the tenderness, without losing the strength and autonomy, does not require all the state, not the state ask anything unless they respect, but do not ask a penny and social movements generally here first thing we do is to demand the state "to provide" and do not resolve independently.
autonomous
-A methodology to implement is the Book "other stories" and you're part-

If ideologue, was released in Germany, in France's out now, this resulted in the Basque Country, the Basque language Basque language is also possible to leave, in the united states as well and the Mapuche.

"The book is about the writings of Subcomandante Marcos?

The book is a book-disk containing twelve of the tales of Subcomandante Marcos and has stories of people very supportive, starting with Galeano and honored, we have sold a lot and there are many people who have and continue distributing .

What is the story of Galeano's participation in the book?

We are not imagined, is more what we dreamed, but then so was the collective dream, make this dream of an individual, it became a collective dream and it was done, we arrived safely just, perhaps, because it was collective and away we went with Galeano, Biglietti, León Gieco, and several actors and actresses who participated.

Since the product of the book. Does the image of how it handles the EZLN?

Yes, it is a fraction of but consistent, because even the approach we have on this anti-capitalist book includes not only the realization that no one make a cent, all the money going to communities and was given a lot of money to good government there, and continue to deliver, but we are keeping it at a bargain price, or is currently the book-album we are selling for $ 35 pesos, when in bookstores, which are withdrawn from the bookstores, because they have them at 60 or 70 dollars because they say they can not compete with a book, which has nothing , has no color, no more leaving Cd. Then as this is a capitalist logic, we do not get into that logic and take it out, we sell directly.

From your teen always were against the capitalist system?

Yes, as far as possible, perhaps my education, my parents, had nothing to do with it with creativity, with art, with political commitment.

With respect to political commitment How do you as a person?

Learning, living and trying to inspire and to develop here of what I learn there and sharing, that is, the book is that, share the word of the EZLN from twelve stories by beautiful. And we're sharing the main goal is raise money, the main objective is to share the word silver is also important, not gain much of each book but it is true that we earn goes to them but that's entirely a political artistic compromise that is consistent, which is nice. One expects a book of militancy that is gray, boring black and this, if you have a black is a letter.

How do you define the culture of the Zapatista army?

Basically has to do with the claim of the original culture, mainly the Mayan culture and the culture that has to do with the painting that has to do with the murals, which has to do with the low relief, not so well musically . That not only has to do with history more original, but it has to do with the meeting of other cultures in the world with all who go there taking their own and culture are intertwined, so you can see graffiti hip-hop rebels who live in the U.S., as you have Japanese paintings and murals you see traveling art communities everywhere and that is culture.

you an anecdote: I work in the autonomous rebel Zapatista elementary school, a boy comes over and looks at me very, very small and says

- What's your name?

- Eduardo "I say.

"And you talk?

-and tell. English and stares at me ... and a few seconds after I say "only? Because they speak English, speak mostly churchill, Tzeltal Mayan languages \u200b\u200band also learn quickly and see some learning Italian and Italian salute you thinking that you're Italian and a capacity for learning and integration and is not that they know more as a matter of quantity but a need to communicate.

Then in the communication culture that is able to communicate with others, hence driving various Mayan languages \u200b\u200bor mother tongue or the father are sometimes different and displaced persons who usually live in another place, displaced by military or paramilitary also the English, and language with which they welcome you, out there learning your own language, your own language, your own way to connect, then so you can connect with them, weave music, a mural and it is also culture.

What type of education received by children of the Zapatista territory?

like everybody else is autonomous, each community chooses its own schedule, choose their own time, determine their own time, its own way, then it is very difficult to generalize. But related to humanism, agroecology are impressive beyond what the human is the Maya world view, which implies knowledge of history and political relations today, what is evil Mexican government that Zapatista is good governance, the declarations of the Lacandon jungle, that is the foundation of Zapatista National Liberation Army, the history of Zapata, Che.

How is the story of his nickname "the Sub Takes Mate" in Zapatista territory?

Well because I'm with the material for several reasons, not just because I'm mater, but because perhaps for survival, the Mexican Meal times are the reverse of ours, so far as we are is a breakfast for them or a lunch is very strong for us, then say that for breakfast with hot rice, potato is not ours. So here I go with my mate, then at noon they ate little, I stay hungry, then there is the mate and the mate then children I got there the Sub Takes Mate. But it is an emergency issue not only of identity but gastronomic to fill the belly and economically. There

share educational learning experience as well mainly because they have no teacher because the teacher is a teacher of life, say they are not teachers, because it has to do with the professed, or a religious issue. They speak of education advocates because no one educates anyone, no one is educated, then they must have agreements.

is agreed to educate community with others and which has a responsibility to guide the educational process as having to deal with community responsibility absorb, supplement from another point of view it is, what we call students, the standard of students, meaning students without light and that is what they dislike of certain words that give a real value to the value words.

school boys are students, those who study are students, but no students in any way and on that basis is also a community responsibility and there are agreements, works agreements. Then in what for us is no dispute and can sometimes be an enemy, an opponent someone shit. The student-teacher, there is not all he otherwise recognize the solidarity that is a promoter of education by encouraging and share l who knows, then that a compromise agreement, respect and solidarity, and it is not obvious what they say.

How do you define the word solidarity?

has to do, not with individual mirrors having an other-which can highlight me in another, and here comes the agreements, as such, that is.

What do you think about the concept of globalization?

What I learned from the Zapatistas, that globalization has to do with balloons and balloon bursting end, what is globalized is the market and the struggles, globalization is to standardize everything and be part of the same machine and I think rebellion that happens to get out of that machine and if you know other people in the world and share music, culture, paintings, but we are not the same and this great diversity.

Each has its place worth fighting for and globalization makes it necessary today is that there are one or two games, a dichotomy in which one has to choose between two general, and other options are not valid, or must social movements to ask the state and then when the state gives the state also requires, then one becomes dependent on those issues and not create independently their own spaces and I think that goes around the community concept.

How do the good government?

generally not all, in five there, operating in the snails that are the sites where works that meeting, where the school, clinic, home of the cooperative, the boards are the representatives of the communities of the autonomous municipalities, Twenty-eight representing then if it turns to be always present and are on call and shifts, is anonymous and absolutely democratic, direct democracy imposes no candidates, no time limits, or at most four years and may be renewed, but no later fixed, is an assembly by assembly, validates community responsibility is a responsibility the community has to banking partner.

With regard to cooperatives. How does it work in this area?

Well, from the EZLN and to avoid not only logical but of the capitalists, they are called coyotes there, intermediaries and other exploitation of the producers had not only coffee but fundamentally women producing handicrafts, weaving then began to organize into cooperatives and not only consumption, but production or marketing, self-support and international solidarity also gather outside some money when they sell their crafts, coffee or international solidarity that inspired them most by such "other stories" that also is not only took money, not just capital, but is the product of their word, with photographs of them, in practice, as such, but mainly has to do with them what is sustainable, there are communities that are more coffee, some with corn alone, rice and other well between trade, barter and trade have a much better life and more democratic in the sense that if you go hungry all hungry, but did not pass and are supportive, have reversed what is child malnutrition, illiteracy have far exceeded all conceivable parameters and that they do collectively solve it.

Is education only to the territory where they are?

No, not alone, they inspire and there are many centers in many parts of the world that work very similar to them, some inspired by the Zapatistas but most intuitively, what happens is that the Zapatistas are a mirror, in addition to many people, then acquire new forces in different places, but here are some kernels Mapuche in Santiago del Estero, in southern Chile mainly, but there are in Ecuador, in Brasilia, there are certain core linked to the MST, now in Colombia, which is the Minga In the Philippines, India, Denmark, in many places where self concepts, achievements and community realities autonomous autonomous rebel weave their own history, no export Zapatistas, but dreaming together.

Do you think that the collective comes a new culture?

If our culture often leads us to the personality, then look for references, look for leaders and often searches for Mark as a leader there and no, he has a mission, now about two years ago not to speak publicly and the press usually you are looking for a single point and not what happens in communities is growing more into autonomy today than you can say Mark, then this is the way enterprises from the most basic community as a craft cooperative or school , in another aspect also the rebel radio communications and is a venture self a need for communication and are growing very strongly.

How is the work that has the radius of the insurgents?

The voice of the voiceless, the voice that carries communications, some clandestine, covert, some of the most frequently used in connection with recipes and also great music and we could make enough in relation to that can bring world music From this corner, especially ours, but that we give not only to the Rally Barrionuevo Marcos m singing, but also trees and the sound Bersuit there quietly and also by Atahualpa Yupanqui Cortázar course and they say that to be Zapatista first have to be cronopio (is a picture off the rim, a poem without rhymes. integrate the world-told by the writer Julio Cortázar-) and Cortazar brand is part of the Zapatistas, necessarily although he has not known is basic.

How do you define your role as a communicator?

I have a role at most in the media for story above experiences, not just story of the struggles of others, but their own, or what I have to be a witness, not looking to be a witness, but looking for somehow be involved, it seems to me lies that I have a good way to say and less a way of writing, but I I can tell stories that make alive the possibility of knowing other people.

Sand Table Blueprints

In support of the people and the constitutional government of Manuel Zelaya in Honduras


Victor Hugo Morales is a journalist in recent times is on everyone's lips. He works at a radio belonging to a multimedia but saber and sword defends the Media Law. Reflections, anecdotes and thoughts of one of the leaders of Argentine journalism.




For Bilotti, Ignacio and Agustin Gamero

were 18 hours and a little sun hid behind the tall buildings of Buenos Aires. The exact location puts us in Rivadavia Street between Suipacha and Esmeralda 864
The warm hall of Radio Continental found us sitting in chairs as we talked with the security guard, which had become almost a friend.
The clock is stopped, two eyes together in a gesture of resignation, it seemed that the fifth was not going to be the charm. Suddenly the door opens and he enters with his characteristic style (dark blue jacket, jean tone and blue striped shirt.) With a smile greets those who were there. Then goes to us and says "guys" came for the interview, no? "To which we responded in unison" yes Victor Hugo. " His proposal was: "Do you think at 20 after the program?"

already in the studio in the gallery y con todo el equipo periodístico de su programa “Competencia” en acción, admiramos su capacidad profesional y confirmamos su excelente labor detrás del micrófono. La hora pasó volando, Víctor Hugo se paró y nuevamente dirigiéndose a nosotros dijo “vamos chicos”. El grabador en marcha, sentados junto a él en la puerta del estudio, había gente merodeando y hablando, la primera pregunta estaba por hacerse y Moráles sin sutilezas gritó: “silencio que se graba”. Así comenzó la entrevista…

Hace aproximadamente 20 años, se te veía como un relator de fútbol o un periodista deportivo. Creemos que cambió esta vision and today you're a current reference of journalism and politics, and one could say that an intellectual. What do you think about this?
- (taking the chin, smiles and sincerity wins) No, not an intellectual, it would be disrespectful to those who have done a course of studies, deepening knowledge of philosophy, literature, science for what we call an intellectual. An intellectual is a man who lives deep in the ocean, I am the foam of a wave compared to that.
What did I have is a cultural famine, a major concern, lifelong curiosity, a concern to learn more and improve. This has been a kind of axis of my life. In this framework, a willingness to accept every opportunity that I have been offering to secure this growth, and when they have occasion, one was in the year 91, almost twenty years ago, and another was now to make a program of interest general radio. I have done and every time it happened to myself with other television programs like "The Mirror", "Night least expect," or information in which I participated or not because that information was a column of sports programs newspaper in which I have been driving. In the year 91 and 92 was also in America. Whenever something came up so I accepted gladly, and Uruguay also outside the sport as long as I turned to other activities. So ... we can say that you like challenges and not get bogged down in a particular activity

I do not think in those terms, things come to mind, I pass I do not get anything. I never said "wow" I'll see if I have a news program for improvement. Came the possibility of a news program, I liked it because it is seen that there is a restlessness in me, and in some cases they have been a lot of notoriety, for what is happening in journalism in Argentina. However, at other times I went a little unnoticed as when it was "The Mirror" on television, but television was less in the spotlight was now doing radio.

from these changes that took place What changed in your life, personal, professional and on the street?

more young people I know of which I probably would know if I had devoted only to relate football, because football is very attractive now on the side of the television rather than radio, radio is a service, listening much yet but there is this fascination with the past. So guys I'm about a generation that neither had heard that I exist in football. I have the feeling of being more noticeable, strange because I once thought the same of me, to me it seemed that everyone knew me somehow, but now that's a certainty far greater still. There is a much more continuous exposure and that brings suppose to be more noticed, people who are in favor of what you do and say, and well I have my enemies, I have people who do not want me and I have my fans and people I esteem a generational difference. My generation is more angry with me and I think young people are more excited about my speech.


many years ago are working on Radio Continental, which belongs to a multimedia, and taking into account your position in favor of the Media Law, How do you live that situation?

I have missed I have not been any complaints, I suppose, better than expected, was not liked my position, but I have banks well, I have no complaints in that regard. Never tried to make me see that even something that could have tried: I was wrong in what he said. That could have discussed the issue but I continue saying what he thought and what he believed. They could have tried to convince me but never tried. Nothing ever happened, I recognized in this regard in relation to the company.

In our mind about this, so much talk about objectivity in journalism and we believe you maintain objectivity about your posture and your views on the aspects of reality ...

- (sighs, and reflectively) I think a journalist should always keep that philosophy, if I was against media law , which is what you want the radio where I work, which would probably be to say that I abstain, I do not want to talk making others believe I do because I belong to the company. I should abstain completely. (He pauses as if remembering) A remarkable thing happened to me in that direction but nothing like as not, is that I before the group Prisa and El Pais of Spain bought the radio I was an avid reader of Country constantly talking about the country as the best English-language diary. The same day the group bought this radio almost'd say I have not appointed more than three times over the years, because I'm inhibited, I feel a little shame, shame, the possibility that someone thinks I'm pimping to the company. About this expression would become very academic (laughter). Never
an opinion must be contaminated by an interest or supposed interest as you can, this has to be on your conscience, must be in your head, because others can be attributed to a wrong question is what moves you to say in certain ways, but mainly in your awareness of things have to be very clear about why you give an opinion. The opinions if they have no risk if they are in favor of the current, the current mostly to you for you, not opinions, accompanying the pattern. Like I said, if I was against the media law, and I know that this radio does not suit the media law to this company, what I do is, as the company's interest that the media law do not go as I am against the media law, despite that I'm going to refrain from speaking. I would not, that is, if I agree with the company on that and if I disagree and say what I think radio has to bancar me.

In this connection also, and credibility is so important for journalists What impact do you think that public opinion was in your position in favor of the law? Very gravitating

huge impact for me, much contempt for a social sector and many accession of another, as I said, a bit divided by generations, but also by social class. The middle class, almost upper and upper middle class are in high dudgeon.

"you refer to the most conservative sectors of society?

more conservative sectors and to which I belong perhaps more. They feel betrayed, there is a kind of treason of classes that I have committed because I partnered on the image and fantasy of them a government of popular, leftist in nature and has generated a love or hate in the population. Then the same hatred that the government intended it to anyone who intended to work with some agreement.

This social polarization is always the case in U.S. history What do you think of what happens now?

never seen anything like it. Since the media law to the media here jarred the country, you thought that when he appeared as Private Pension Funds and I agreed with the government after the field as we came and went unnoticed. I mentioned AFJPs the harsh, I was very much in favor of the government in the nationalization, but there was this crazy. Madness occurs because people threw the media threw up this awful dichotomy in which we are living during this time. Without a doubt, are means with their interests, economic interests defended quasi mafia in some cases and codes directly from mobsters by others as Clarín.

At what time did you aware of the power of multimedia groups in Argentina?

(He pulls back and looks up) many years ago. Multimedia always bothered me but never been more insidious. I do not like working for a multimedia because the worker has his head together, you get a mic on television, turn on the radio and a column in the newspaper, you pay for three things a salary that is a little better than would a single wage, which would mean a single salary. And as a worker on that side do not really like, I like it because, well, get a person to take three places, when in reality if it were a multimedia there are three persons to fill these different places. On this side do not like, on the other hand, I understand that is inevitable in a newspaper who is eager to have a radio and who has a diary and a desire to have a radio channel thus this forms a multimedia. If that is the limit, well, that's the limit.
When this radio may have the ten-spoke, which could be fifty because now the effect of media law, why not buy more radios? But we are talking about the fact that every radio that's out there by typing can buy, they were ten radios. When you work in a group of ten radios at the time in which an operator myself I opened the tap for me to speak, is doing for another nine, and I speak nine other journalists who can not speak, and that movilero talk me out of the nine movileros not working in the rest of the country, and so on. Multiplicas y te encontrás con que una radio no puede funcionar decorosamente con menos de veinticinco personas por más chica que sea y funciona en estos momentos con una que levanta una perilla o con dos. Este grupo, y no lo digo con maldad para el grupo, es una realidad que, según como yo la veo, mínimanente está dejando trescientas personas fuera de trabajo.

¿Cuáles creés que fueron los factores que favorecieron a la consolidación de estos grandes grupos multimedíáticos en el país?

Es un intento de un medio poderoso de España que se fue desparramando por América, que ha tenido la intención de posicionarse para captar más poder y seguramente más dinero. Es una for-profit company (referring to the group PRISA). There is also the fact that when you're very strong in half if you can go shopping somewhere else and you'll want to do strong in another way, a challenge that you set by them. Employers also have sometimes this spirit of adventure.
Well, you have a law that permitted, the amendments made to the law of the dictatorship were those that enabled such Clarin, especially since he had the football and that could form the immense power he has in these time because there was no law preventing it. Enough the sword of Damocles of the Media Law for this group ejemplo deje de comprar radios. En dos años ya habían comprado diez, es como que de alguna manera le puso un dique.

A partir de la reglamentación de la Ley de Medios ¿cómo creés que se va a conformar el nuevo mapa mediático en Argentina?

Y…con mucho más trabajo. Mirá mañana voy a hacer una nota, me acaban de entregar una noticia en la provincia ya hay veinte canales más. Son veinte fuentes de trabajo, fuentes de expresión, diversidad de información, vamos a ver después cuánto se puede sostener ciertamente. No es que esto es entrar al paraíso, es entrar a un mundo posible mejor.

En relación al Fútbol Para Todos también tenés a very favorable position what can you tell me that?

posture favorable, very favorable. Football for all is a blessing. Extraordinary. A marvel, an act of justice, a matter appropriate. This is to terminate the thieves who had stolen with the complicity of Grondona and return to the people what they took, which was not even noticed. Note that for years the football was kidnapped and people living normally. You took something that you never knew you could be yours. With the same money, I think that is paid with the money previously spent on conventional advertising, a portion of that money. I advocate that if one day the governments say "no silver but advertising is advertising money, football is football supporter I would also pay it because it is an immense amount of good for people to have a membership as that means football and its freely available. This distributed to all and not given to those who can simply pay the tortuous relationship capitalism dictate to everyone. You can pay for if you consumerism, if you can not pay fuck. Fuck no, jorobate (corrected and seems ashamed of his outburst.)

just mentioned the President of the AFA, what can you tell me Julio Grondona as a person and leader?


No ... (she of repudiation) is a person impresentable Grondona forever. Indefensible even If I did the last years of his life in favor of ethics and good habits. Has no way to recover that in recent years, at least compared to my small way of seeing things, you do not see an image you feel like clapping, even minimally.

current Politically, what do you think about the opposition and its position of opposing everything the government proposes?

The attitude of politicians in general and the handling of the opposition is unfortunate, so unfortunate that none of them with the tremendous publicity of years of mutual service, mutual aid, of great journalism neither country has been up and running as strong candidate. None fills the coupon. And this is the demonstration that had been greatly mistaken thought that being vulgar and Magnetto pimps and Clarín power would be able to build your career, some are destroying and not realize it.

measures being taken by the government, of which we are speaking, depending on your point of view ... would you play for or against ahead of elections next year?

I think society was welcomed as equal marriage but does not influence votes. I think the media law has played against, because it increased the madness unleashed the multimedia to defend their interests and the government has put him repeatedly in a place where it seems a "throw it to the doll." Have fostered a formidable hatred in people, or whether the media law is certainly an act of great political courage.

Do you think that the multimedia monopolies are today are the fourth power in Argentina or in which hierarchy would place?

(is quick to respond with conviction) No, they are more powerful. At this moment the first power, the government is the second. I do not know whether the second. First the media, after all the corporations that own the media as accomplices, are therefore higher. Third is the government, that is, third is what we call people and not because the government is the people, but because being so little strong government interest in that game that are more susceptible is the people. Vos

lately you have a position in many cases favorable to the government and when you have to praise you do it, but yet not lose your critical view ...

I'm not militant, I see with good eyes government stuff and I reserve critical for other aspects, although in recent times it happens very often that the government is moving on issues that I've always wanted to be part of government activity. For example, now goes to the law decriminalization of abortion, out of the trap that got to the track glaciers, has solved the problem with the law passed last night.

Do you feel that you are used by official media as "6, 7, 8" using your positions in favor but when critics do not show? How can you take?

I think it's understandable. I understand, they have one hour, four or five times a week, not how many times will the program. And they want to counterbalance the dominant journalism. If they lose time from their place dealing with the criticism that they want to unlock to discuss the media, say daggers are stuck and I understand, is not ideal for me. A bit of damage I've done, because people who see "6, 7, 8" and do not listen to my program is thinking that I am that out there. But I understand I'm not angry about it, I think they have a cause and they have to fight with all the tools possible. Well if my tool serves only at the stages I have not taken much to say.

Finally, I ask you to reflect on journalism ... What does it mean to you?

in many ways is education, public prosecutor, acting on behalf of the people is to get collaboration through culture, education, the correct information of ethics and aesthetics of a better society. Radio in particular is the wonderful struggle of one's imagination stimulating the imagination of others, but that's not for radio and journalism.

The interview ends, Victor Hugo with the warmth that characterizes it stands up and says goodbye.

The driver is waiting on the sidewalk, they will go to a performance at the Teatro Colon and our last contact in the street, is a greeting and an eternal gratitude.

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David "Watu" Cilleruelo was a student at the Universidad Nacional del Sur and a member of the Communist Youth Federation. On April 3, 1975 is killed in the corridors of power for the president's security chief Dionisio Remus Tetu, Jorge "Moncho" Argibay. The political scene leading to the dictatorship, the involvement of universities and the repressive actions of the Machiavellian intervening in all areas of civic life.



By Julia Varela

La Universidad Nacional del Sur is one of the two houses of study groups than in the city of Bahía Blanca. In early 1975, under President Maria Estela Martinez de Peron, Professor Denis Tetu Remus auditor was appointed rector of the institution, the primary and secondary schools dependent NUS and National University of Comahue. During his tenure, ended the careers of geography, economics, management sciences and humanities, laid off 225 teachers, 200 non-teaching staff, closed the dining hall and was responsible for the expulsion of 23 students. His unit was responsible for delivering, chase and kill.

The dictatorship was responsible for spreading terror in all areas of civic life in the country between 1976 and 1983. But it is worth remembering that the kidnappings, social vulnerability and repression that began before the military junta overthrew the constitutional government of the time.

may determine the onset of persecution with the creation in 1973 of the Triple Alliance Anti-Argentina-under the command of José López Rega during the interim government of Raúl Lastrini. The personal secretary and Social Welfare Minister Juan Domingo Peron propelled this vigilante group to get rid of the leftist groups of the Peronist movement itself.

CONADEP According to records from 1973 to early 1976, was responsible for more than 900 disappearances and murders, among which 300 were students. "The Triple Alliance Anti-Argentina-A-founded shortly after the start of Peron in 1973, was a clandestine organization of fascist inspiration intensely acted in the suppression and disruption of political groups and trade union left. "Watu lives

" It was a day of registration, the day before the meeting was to form the Federation of Southern University, where he had been already designated Watu Secretary General, "said Miguel Perez, a fellow militant.
On April 3, 1975, David Cilleruelo is stopped by thugs in the building of the Universidad Nacional del Sur, located on Avenida Alem, between Cordoba and Peru in the city of Bahía Blanca. They ask the documents, he refuses and goes his way. A one meter shot in the agents the head and died an hour later in the Municipal Hospital guard.

The controller then rector of the University was Dionisio Remus Tetu, an avowed fascist Romanian origin who had joined the Iron Guard and in 1945 had participated in anti-communist resistance.

"In a press conference based its nomination for 'manifest breach of the law', 'serious disturbance of public order', 'insoluble conflict within the university" and "subversion of state power'" says the Party Socialist Workers.

Tetu was the mentor's murder of David, but its author was Jorge Oscar material Argibay, Navy Petty Officer and custodian of the controller. The financial accounting

hand UNS executing in the famous "mission Ivanissevich" encouraged by the Ministry of Education of Isabel to "cleanse the universities of subversive elements" in the language that expressed these murderers, "he says in a statement Communist Youth Federation to 35 years for the murder of his partner. "Argibay retired that day in the official car of the Rector of the University," says Dante Patrigniani, "because they were officially the security guard named University by Remus Tetu. "

worth noting that the actions carried out by the leadership of the UNS government were not a few isolated issues with power. The death of David Cilleruelo and the abduction and disappearance of thousands of bahienses were the result of a policy of extermination of different areas and public and private agencies conspired and worked towards carrying out its objective.


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Delhi during the dictatorship was one of the most important military interference in the Province of Buenos Aires. Is home to the Navy, the Puerto Belgrano Naval Base, the Army, the operations center of the Armada Argentina, Battalion Communications 121, Air Force, among others.

In the city there was at least four illegal detention and three concentration camps, whose actions were supported by private companies, where the most important and most inherent in public opinion of citizens is the group "The New province. "

addition of ideology with an unmistakable imprint nazifacista, "rotating out of one of the most popular magazines during the time of the AAA, as was the Cabildo and the owners owned the largest Nazi editorial Latin America based in Buenos Aires. "


1: Commission Provincial and Memory. La Plata, Buenos Aires.
2: http://www.pts.org.ar/
3: http://lafededelche.com.ar/ddhh Juvernil Communist Federation
4: http://www.desaparecidos.org/arg/bahia/